From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Apr 07 09:42:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 4867 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2007 16:42:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.36) by m42.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2007 16:42:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.7) by mta10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2007 16:42:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 28489 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2007 16:42:46 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2007 16:42:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HaDzu-0008WI-TK for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:42:44 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HaDzV-0008Tu-AR; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:42:21 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HaDxe-0008SJ-H3 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:40:22 -0700 Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.16]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HaDxa-0008SA-2P for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:40:22 -0700 Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu (hive.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.14]) by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id l37GeAcM024356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:40:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l37GeANg004762; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:40:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id l37GeAOK004759; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:40:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: hive.cec.wustl.edu: adam owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:40:09 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <200704062050.15264.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: References: <200704062050.15264.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13672 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Adam D. Lopresto" From: "Adam D. Lopresto" Reply-To: adam@pubcrawler.org Subject: [lojban] Re: as far as I know X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=O5e7veItg_wWajfvZbazva7OgsaFQZ4ON5UWQSXcZOP9oDGwMw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28126 On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Pierre Abbat wrote: > du'onai lo mi nalterju'o Doesn't seem quite right. {du'o} corresponds to the x1 of {djuno}, so it's the person who knows. (Yes, this is a little confusing in the ma'oste, but even there it's pretty clear it's a person. The byfy has standardized it to "known by".) {te du'o nai} might work. But I'd probably use something like se du'o no natfe "Knowing of nothing that contradicts" seems pretty close to "as far as I know". > > How does that sound? "As far as I know" doesn't mean that I actually know, > which {du'o mi} would indicate; rather it means that there's something I > don't know which may not support the assertion. > > As far as I know he's in Argentina. > du'onai lo mi nalterju'o sy. zvati la gentygug. > > He told me he would go there. He may be there, or he may have gotten stuck in > Mexico for douanic reasons. > > Pierre > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > -- Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ Good communication is as stimulating as black coffee, and just as hard to sleep after. --Anne Morrow Lindbergh To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.