From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Apr 13 05:49:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22577 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2007 12:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2007 12:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.5) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2007 12:46:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29104 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2007 12:45:55 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Apr 2007 12:45:54 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcL9y-0005PE-Ad for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:45:51 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcL9F-0005Mz-MH; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:45:11 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcL7T-0005LV-NT for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:43:18 -0700 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcL7A-0005Kr-By for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:43:07 -0700 Received: from mail01.m-online.net (svr21.m-online.net [192.168.3.149]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39C19851B for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:42:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: uimZm3S5qfaqJHHsJysouE8fSESxacsfmKKBiSk33d4= Received: from duroK2.oas.a2e.de (bitmu.a2e.de [62.245.246.162]) by smtp-auth.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6D3905B0 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:42:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by duroK2.oas.a2e.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5B060E14065; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:40:27 +0200 (CEST) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <20070413124027.5B060E14065@duroK2.oas.a2e.de> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13679 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phm@a2e.de X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: PILCH Hartmut From: PILCH Hartmut Reply-To: phm@a2e.de Subject: [lojban] Standard Lojban Parser+Glosser rotting away (?) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=JjDQKtNtIKt5TnKVLJN7YKeEQu8KQkitggv_S6TmghBAaPNgbw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28134 coi mi'e hartmut According to http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Dictionaries%2C+Glossers+and+parsers&bl the "de facto standard glosser and parser for lojban" is jbofi'e http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=jbofi%27e When trying to find out more about the status of this project, I came to the conclusion that it is basically defunct, and we must fear that, once the server of lojban.org is upgraded, even the web-based Lojban Glosser http://www.lojban.org/jboski will no longer work. This is because the author, Richard Curnow seems to have abandoned the software, and it no longer compiles under newer Linux systems (and probably not under other newer systems either). Debugging and maintaing this software requires expertise in flex, bison and other systems which I lack and perhaps not many people have. Richard Curnow seemed to be quite a rare expert. Or is there someone on this list who could help out and assemble what is left of this project and save it from bit-rot ? This tool is indeed, as the introductory pages at lojban.org say, bound to function as the "de facto standard" tool for anyone working with Lojban. It is through tools such as this one that the language standards of Lojban gain practical relevance and that learning hurdles can be overcome. -- Hartmut Pilch 裴寒牧 ピルヒ・ハルトムート http://a2e.de/phm To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.