From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 04 12:45:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15783 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2007 19:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2007 19:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.3) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2007 19:45:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9562 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2007 19:45:15 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Apr 2007 19:45:15 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HZBPs-0002nO-CZ for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:45:14 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HZBPJ-0002mU-AH; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:44:49 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HZBOC-0002lx-AO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:43:28 -0700 Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.214.232]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HZBO6-0002lk-63 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:43:28 -0700 Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 24so1239560hud for ; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Cr+QVEaxVwHwxBSWOiUONKJ04MHsCODD/yiAF00iogbpexoSv7E/QFHzTf78xAU+gpAEj2/4jUsFiGUeyG8hp/xsEqzC6giMyJbabzaYYe2K4haR/txhe0tlHat5uyetWi0IrnIayFBZpn8THIe8ZrZseau5rhOZo2QJcvYpqds= Received: by 10.78.176.20 with SMTP id y20mr179899hue.1175715799978; Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.44.12 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:43:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4613F3A5.8020606@perpetuum-immobile.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4612873B.3050900@perpetuum-immobile.de> <4613F3A5.8020606@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Score-Int: -23 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 13662 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 X-Spam-Score-Int: -23 X-Spam-Bar: -- To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Matt Arnold" From: "Matt Arnold" Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: lojbanic audioboard X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=wuOidBbQFXRQqDIm5W1nUSGdqr5_fMSQjNTWuUjO6YvLqRNblA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28116 Adoption of a system depends on ease of use. Complexity to the user is a type of "cost". If users can record their voice directly to the website when posting, it will be used often enough to attract more people to listen the content, to become users, to attract more people. This positive feedback loop has to reach escape velocity. Until the software lets them do that, the cost in preparation effort will be too high. It will not reach self-sustaining escape velocity, then it will taper off to nothing in a negative feedback loop: people realize they don't like all the work and stop posting, so there is less content to listen to, so fewer people post, and so on. There might be a solution for this that would fit. I'll keep thinking about it. -Eppcott On 4/4/07, Timo Paulssen wrote: > Matt Arnold wrote: > > The more I think about it, the more I like it. Who do we have among us > > in addition to Timo and Stephen Weeks, who possess the ability to work > > on this software? > > -Eppcott > > it actually just came to my mind that the old ICSL forums still exist. > the forums has a file upload feature, too. > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.