From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat May 12 20:20:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71655 invoked from network); 13 May 2007 03:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.70) by m40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2007 03:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.9) by mta12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2007 03:19:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 12573 invoked from network); 13 May 2007 03:19:26 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 May 2007 03:19:26 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hn4cE-0005Sh-EC for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:19:23 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hn4bj-0005RY-Kn; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:18:53 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hn4a5-0005R8-RK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:10 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hn4a4-0005Qz-Vg; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:17:08 -0700 Message-ID: <20070513031708.GX16151@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: jbovlaste@lojban.org, lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-archive-position: 13710 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] jbovlaste natlang word voting question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=CeIMRrSra2N8NVOa4Y3yTKY9PBAkuSnwEXJgPsWMpnJyW8wcOw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28168 A jbovlaste question; if you don't care about how jbovlaste works or is laid out, move along. I'm pondering the nature of natlang word voting; look at http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/natlang/en/computer%20program for example (if anyone can suggest a better example, where "better" is defined here as "more contention", please speak up). I'm wondering if natlang word voting buys us anything. I mean, a Lojban word has only one meaning, so it's not Ok for the second place of sampli to mean both "computer program" and "astronaut". :) But it *is* OK for "computer program" to map to both sampli and samtci, as occurs on that page. I don't see a lot of value to preferring one over the other; maybe if they're both above water (a positive vote value) we should have both in the dictionary? What do you all think? As a related philosophical issue, is it OK for the second place of sampli to mean both "computer program" and "computer" (as is currently the case)? Why or why not? I'm honestly not sure one way or the other. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.