From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 29 17:03:46 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4QQx-0003xR-6L for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:03:27 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4QQs-0003xA-Qo for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:03:26 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FE1CE4B3 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:03:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] names of the months Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:03:14 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200706292003.14636.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13757 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I've used {kanbyma'i ce jaurbeima'i li'o} for months, but I've been having second thoughts about this. Those words would be better used for the times of year corresponding to zodiac signs. I don't know much about astrology, so I find it hard to remember which zodiac sign corresponds to which month. The Gregorian calendar is a descendant of the Roman calendar, and Latin names are the most common names for the months, at least among languages with names of the months listed in Wiktionary. Non-IE languages using Latin names include Alabama, Arabic, Estonian, Filipino, Georgian, Hungarian, Livonian, Malaysian, Maltese, Maori, and Tatar. Naming months with numbers is mostly confined to East Asia. A common way of naming months is to describe the season (e.g. "listopad", which means "leaf-fall", is found in several Slavic languages), but as seasons are opposite for xorxes and me, that would not be appropriate. So I propose the following: ianvari, frebuari, *martio, *prilio, *madjio, *djunio, *djulio, avgusto, septembero, oktobero, novmbero, decmbero. The starred forms are valid, but vlatai thinks they are invalid because they differ by an apostrophe from a lujvo. For pre-Augustan versions we can use {kuintili} and {sektili} ({sekstili} is a meaningless lujvo). Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.