From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jun 29 19:21:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 41496 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2007 02:21:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33) by m51.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jun 2007 02:21:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.10) by mta7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2007 02:21:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19561 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2007 02:21:40 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Jun 2007 02:21:40 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4Saf-00077f-9q for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:21:38 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4SYs-0006zB-TU; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:19:53 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4SWv-0006yQ-IK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:17:46 -0700 Received: from smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.17] helo=smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4SWq-0006xp-PO for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:17:45 -0700 Received: (qmail 1132 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2007 02:17:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (75.0.147.127) by smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.17) with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2007 02:17:33 -0000 Message-ID: <01ca01c7babc$cce00580$0302a8c0@TOP> References: <200706292003.14636.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:17:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13758 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sen@lojbo.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.10 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Nathaniel Krause" From: "Nathaniel Krause" Reply-To: sen@lojbo.org Subject: [lojban] Re: names of the months X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=0eJVtHiZNXS_aByh3Mqv34X0IaXnkVS-WvvBCe_Yt6BN5VBPGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28219 Why not just cmevla, like we do for the hours? mi'e .sen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pierre Abbat" To: Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: [lojban] names of the months > I've used {kanbyma'i ce jaurbeima'i li'o} for months, but I've been having > second thoughts about this. Those words would be better used for the times > of > year corresponding to zodiac signs. I don't know much about astrology, so > I > find it hard to remember which zodiac sign corresponds to which month. > > The Gregorian calendar is a descendant of the Roman calendar, and Latin > names > are the most common names for the months, at least among languages with > names > of the months listed in Wiktionary. Non-IE languages using Latin names > include Alabama, Arabic, Estonian, Filipino, Georgian, Hungarian, > Livonian, > Malaysian, Maltese, Maori, and Tatar. Naming months with numbers is mostly > confined to East Asia. A common way of naming months is to describe the > season (e.g. "listopad", which means "leaf-fall", is found in several > Slavic > languages), but as seasons are opposite for xorxes and me, that would not > be > appropriate. So I propose the following: > > ianvari, frebuari, *martio, *prilio, *madjio, *djunio, *djulio, avgusto, > septembero, oktobero, novmbero, decmbero. > > The starred forms are valid, but vlatai thinks they are invalid because > they > differ by an apostrophe from a lujvo. For pre-Augustan versions we can use > {kuintili} and {sektili} ({sekstili} is a meaningless lujvo). > > Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.