From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Jun 30 22:11:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 48637 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2007 05:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.70) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jul 2007 05:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.6) by mta12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2007 05:11:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 20314 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2007 05:11:02 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 1 Jul 2007 05:11:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4ri6-0002Vm-Ck for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:10:59 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4rhf-0002U3-U5; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:10:35 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4rgr-0002Ts-8M for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:09:41 -0700 Received: from netscaler1.rice.edu ([128.42.205.5] helo=mh3.mail.rice.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I4rgi-0002Tg-5S for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:09:40 -0700 Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76694288085 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:09:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-2.4.4 at mh3.mail.rice.edu Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (mh3.mail.rice.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0JkFMfw5Ofs6 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:09:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Starlight (c-24-18-203-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.18.203.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9970C288090 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:09:24 -0500 (CDT) References: <200706292003.14636.phma@phma.optus.nu> <01ca01c7babc$cce00580$0302a8c0@TOP> <200706292257.15939.phma@phma.optus.nu> <702226df0706292139p666c4d2bn7fd5fbd12e4e805e@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560706300735g7fefb83bn73fd08b74ea39cf7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:07:52 -0700 Message-ID: <007f01c7bb9d$c84fc8c0$0300a8c0@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <925d17560706300735g7fefb83bn73fd08b74ea39cf7@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ace7JETAFLOzlulaS4iZlI4LVZI3KwAcfiHA X-Spam-Score: 0.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: 8 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13770 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mls1@rice.edu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Marjorie Scherf" From: "Marjorie Scherf" Reply-To: mls1@rice.edu Subject: [lojban] Re: names of the months X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=1LUqgdMSogo8ozIVSwF-bN3aUhNVQaa4c5zfSLssk0FPXqQNzA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28229 -----Original Message----- From: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Llambías Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 7:36 AM To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: names of the months I actually like the Japanese and Korean system: soldei Sun's day lurdei Moon's day fagdei day of the planet of fire (Mars) jaurdei day of the planet of water (Mercury) mudydei day of the planet of wood (Jupiter) jimdei day of the planet of metal (Venus) derdei day of the planet of earth (Saturn) (Note that Saturday is associated with Saturn, the planet of earth, not with planet Earth.) mu'o mi'e xorxes I am not familiar with the associations between these planets and these "elements". I am mostly certain that these planets are named after Roman mythological figures which roughly correspond to ancient Greek mythological figures. Based on this, it might be reasonable to name the days along these lines: jetydei Truth day (Helios, the Sun. Also can be associated with Apollo) katydei Hunt day (Artemis, often associated with the Moon) jamdei War day (Ares) li'urdei Traveler day (Hermes) lidydei Lightning day (Zeus) pamdei Love day (Aphrodite) spedei Marriage day (Hera) There are other possibilities for this type of theme, since most of these mythological figures are associated with more than one thing. I can understand hesitance to calling a day of the week "War day" but I thought it sounded better than "slaughter day". Some of these specific lujvo may be better saved for other purposes. I can't think of any examples off the top of my head that wouldn't be better off with one or two more rafsi, though. I don't know whether either of these systems is better than the other; I'm just offering another possibility that makes a little more sense to me because it is based on things I already know about. I don't know which more people are likely to know about. Although, once we decide on day names, the association with whatever it came from may not even matter much. I am not under the impression that most people don't think about where day names come from on a daily basis. We could just as well arbitrarily choose things to name them after, or choose some different length of week other than seven days. But if we want the names to be based on similar things than the day names we already know, here is another way we might decide to do this. mu'omi'e .skaryzgik. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.