From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 24 12:14:09 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IZtNf-0003XT-Gk for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:14:09 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IZtNa-0003X8-QD for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:14:06 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so1131526nfv for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:14:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=I9oNIBH245/KSwXV+XEgfT7XLAOfsFA2UIyBI75Xgh4=; b=JMbsCbkcuSOU64TQd2oU6fvwwXYyKrAeUKcdrDrzrptMT0XgJ9A/Hr8AeTCRalKvehICCPnC5mZ4jsaaa+LdxnT3tajVQ+qkqFvxcVTUGi3JrcT0FBzsEP1omxTmxvYrK1bgBiyJq+m41gasJzQCKnmAg21EfrGIYsEGBQRkoZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lcgWrDszUsZaDU8PRiOQfeGTyLpIt6qGA3sSYdE/yrP8IpE3t+1oGh7BCj/q5iTsJGRxNvzfVolfK0NoE+YO7WGQZPHVSVmfOIvtfdn5/sVeaQGjUxl+Sy1NVjR4tZI8DPWVGp5WsHZe5Ht077f6OqzH3LtImUZmghlw8q+CrwM= Received: by 10.86.90.2 with SMTP id n2mr4944936fgb.1190661240361; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560709241214q46429ef1p35560a4c1ad3c001@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:14:00 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Question to native English speakers In-Reply-To: <975a94850709240904p3f6e633csb49205991f4fc827@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10709240731m128e16bbu376cf0191d37a110@mail.gmail.com> <975a94850709240904p3f6e633csb49205991f4fc827@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13847 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 9/24/07, Joel Shellman wrote: > > For me anyway, this specific example almost certainly would mean > Another (World Map) because: > > 1) World Map is almost a compound word--very often used together. > 2) The context would indicate most likely that Another (World Map) is > intended. Very very few times do we discuss maps of other worlds, so > unless you're at a sci-fi convention or something, it's almost > certainly A(WM). I doubt that's the reason. I think for any pair of nouns, "another noun1 noun2" can only be read as "another (noun1 noun2)". For example "another world atmosphere" could olnly have the unlikely meaning of "another (world atmosphere)" and not the semantically more plausible "(another world) atmosphere", at least if you use it in a sentence. I don't know what happens if you use it as stand alone, but my non-native judgement would still find it strange. That's because "another world", "this world", "that world" can't be used as modifiers, as they include a determiner. "Another world's map" should be fine. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.