From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Sep 26 16:41:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95260 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2007 23:41:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m46.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Sep 2007 23:41:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2007 23:41:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 28956 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2007 23:41:11 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Sep 2007 23:41:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IagV9-0005u8-Ie for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:41:10 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IagUg-0005rM-RM; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:40:41 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaDFS-0000Nj-3V for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:26:58 -0700 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaDFP-0000NX-NE for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:26:57 -0700 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n30so330931elf for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr1196234wfb.1190737613337; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.83.13 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <975a94850709250926y2ac2a309if5853faeb6779b98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:26:53 -0700 In-Reply-To: <925d17560709250913x50d1fb4fqc351ab917525d0c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560709250635u34a3c341p76f11ebb37483c2@mail.gmail.com> <892552.22037.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560709250913x50d1fb4fqc351ab917525d0c1@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13860 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jshellman@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Joel Shellman" From: "Joel Shellman" Reply-To: jshellman@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Question to native English speakers X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=nmurcF0w-fSj81wjca-JTO5B9MqGINTN5C1B-eKuL6p8AidojQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28334 > Yes, that's clear for normal adjectives. But can you give a sentence with > "another world map" that would make sense with that intonation? Someone showing successively three different maps--first two of Earth, third of some other planet. "Look at this world map. And here's another world map. Ah, but here's ANOTHER WORLD map." This is contrived, but perhaps the most likely situation where this might happen (which I think we're all in agreement is highly unlikely). The speaker in this situation is deliberately playing on the words. He had just said another world map to mean something hum drum, now by putting different emphasis on the same phrase, he creates contrast and emphasis that the third map is something special. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.