From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Sep 21 07:57:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87664 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2007 14:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Sep 2007 14:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.5) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2007 14:57:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1712 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2007 14:56:10 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Sep 2007 14:56:10 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IYjvN-00057z-Ah for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:56:09 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IYjuu-00054c-33; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:55:45 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IYjti-00054W-J9 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:54:26 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IYjtf-00054G-SU for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:54:26 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55BCCE85C for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:54:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709211054.08676.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13833 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Subject: [lojban] type-3 fu'ivla and ndj rule X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=tfKaE5qFL6glpiGlPG3_eQzWyGanXzkiQ3QA6vC0B0LiV5WlnA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28306 A jamo, in Korean writing, is a phonemic character which is assembled into a syllabic character. If I make a short-rafsi type-3 fu'ivla out of that, it comes out {lerndjamo}, which is an ill-formed word. Can I use 'l' as the hyphen-letter (lerldjamo), or do I have to use the long rafsi (lerfrdjamo)? Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.