From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Sep 27 06:24:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84782 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2007 13:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.200) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2007 13:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.4) by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2007 13:24:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 29984 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2007 13:24:37 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 27 Sep 2007 13:24:37 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IatM3-0004tP-3O for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:24:36 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IatLN-0004p6-Nb; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:23:55 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IatJt-0004ox-Fa for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:22:22 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IatJp-0004op-3G for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:22:21 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1382731uge for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.27.15 with SMTP id e15mr3603421ugj.1190899334761; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560709270622r6eeee33ck154cb2c639128409@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:22:14 -0300 In-Reply-To: <975a94850709250926y2ac2a309if5853faeb6779b98@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560709250635u34a3c341p76f11ebb37483c2@mail.gmail.com> <892552.22037.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <925d17560709250913x50d1fb4fqc351ab917525d0c1@mail.gmail.com> <975a94850709250926y2ac2a309if5853faeb6779b98@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13862 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Question to native English speakers X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=xcuJTH8TsR5W6-ocby-wdUfFJoVcbOT4Ex9JIjwUqcDAhY4X0g X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28336 On 9/25/07, Joel Shellman wrote: > > "Look at this world map. And here's another world map. Ah, but here's > ANOTHER WORLD map." > > This is contrived, but perhaps the most likely situation where this > might happen (which I think we're all in agreement is highly > unlikely). Compare with "Look at this world-map. And here's a new world-map. Ah, but here's a new-world map." "a new world map" allows both the "a (new (world map))" and the "a ((new world) map)" readings, but "another world map" allows only the "another (world map)" reading. The other reading, "an((other world) map)", has the problem that "another" can't really split so that the scope of "other" covers just "world" while the scope of "an" covers the whole noun phrase. The weirdness is caused by "another" being too tight, not by "world-map" being too tight. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.