From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Sep 25 06:40:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 7757 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2007 13:40:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (69.147.108.202) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Sep 2007 13:40:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.7) by mta3.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Sep 2007 13:40:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20949 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2007 13:39:13 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 Sep 2007 13:39:13 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaAd5-0006Iq-3e for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:39:11 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaAcZ-0006A0-3r; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:38:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaAah-00069a-19 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:36:55 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaAaE-00068y-I4 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:36:37 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so1297700nfv for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.81.8 with SMTP id e8mr4004365fgb.1190727357796; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560709250635u34a3c341p76f11ebb37483c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:35:57 -0300 In-Reply-To: <975a94850709241235x6c460075pdb2f0554e2ce40da@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10709240731m128e16bbu376cf0191d37a110@mail.gmail.com> <975a94850709240904p3f6e633csb49205991f4fc827@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560709241214q46429ef1p35560a4c1ad3c001@mail.gmail.com> <975a94850709241235x6c460075pdb2f0554e2ce40da@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13850 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Question to native English speakers X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=3_w13LeFBT4lAhbzgaGT9Mv1nMJhXSYMSr-Zwgkh5d8AcYpGMw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28324 On 9/24/07, Joel Shellman wrote: > > After googling, I found one non-authoritive account stating that > adj-noun-noun combos should always be considered adj (noun noun) > unless there is a hyphen between the first two words. Sounds right, at least for most cases. But "another" is a special adjective, as it includes a determiner, so "another-world map" won't really work either. "Another World map" seems to work with the (AW)M parsing only when "Another World" is the name of a place, similar to "United States map". For example: "There was an Another World map on the wall". > I > would say that adj-noun-noun combos will be intended and interpreted > either way depending on the context, intonation, etc. in casual > conversation and writing. For normal adjectives, yes. For "another", unless used as a name, what context could give the "(another noun) noun" reading? mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.