From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Nov 13 07:11:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42118 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 15:11:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2007 15:11:33 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 15:11:33 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 4127 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 15:11:33 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Nov 2007 15:11:31 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxQG-0001b1-Vx for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:11:30 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxPV-0000p9-Lt; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:10:46 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:56:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxBZ-0000ob-Tb for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:56:34 -0800 X-Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.233]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxB8-0000ni-Py for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:56:13 -0800 X-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 36so976202wra for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:55:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.242.8 with SMTP id p8mr1205303wfh.1194965731886; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:55:31 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.153.4 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:55:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12d58c160711130655k490e603eg301a060f0c9ecb3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:55:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_36499_22413231.1194965731696" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4633c991f2902dcd X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13929 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "komfo,amonan" From: "komfo,amonan" Reply-To: komfoamonan@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: respecting cultures X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=p-XEgqLkDYcoM3g2sScPF5aF9BoLlB2ht5doVaqmqKAqjzyaFQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28407 ------=_Part_36499_22413231.1194965731696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Nov 13, 2007 9:01 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/2007 4:34:07 AM Central Standard Time, > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > Perhaps the error is in the word "equal" as well. To say that all > cultures deserve respect does not necessarily require that all cultures > get equal respect. Rather, it means that the range of respect that is > granted should always be above some minimal value, arising from the sum > of the minimum value of the respect due each individual person in that > culture merely for being a human being. > > The mere fact of being a human being is not sufficient grounds for any > respect. The worst people deserve no respect at all. Strangers are > accorded respect by giving them the benefit of the doubt. Once they become > known quantities, their actions and words signal how much respect they > deserve. e'u sai ti noi nunsnu cu ga ca se fanmo gi ba ranji bau la lojban i mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_36499_22413231.1194965731696 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Nov 13, 2007 9:01 AM, <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
In a message dated 11/13/2007 4:34:07 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:

Perhaps the error is in the word "equal" as well.  To say that all
cultures deserve respect does not necessarily require that all cultures
get equal respect.  Rather, it means that the range of respect that is
granted should always be above some minimal value, arising from the sum
of the minimum value of the respect due each individual person in that
culture merely for being a human being.
The mere fact of being a human being is not sufficient grounds for any respect.  The worst people deserve no respect at all.  Strangers are accorded respect by giving them the benefit of the doubt.  Once they become known quantities, their actions and words signal how much respect they deserve.  

e'u sai ti noi nunsnu cu ga ca se fanmo gi ba ranji bau la lojban i mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan
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