From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 05 07:48:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 41517 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 15:48:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Nov 2007 15:48:01 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.3) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2007 15:48:01 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29997 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2007 15:48:01 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Nov 2007 15:48:01 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip4BD-00071q-BZ for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:47:59 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip47S-0006Zc-Lq; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:44:25 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:29:31 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3t4-0006ZI-II for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:29:25 -0800 X-Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ip3sj-0006YW-CQ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:29:09 -0800 X-Received: (qmail 32019 invoked by uid 48); 5 Nov 2007 07:01:50 -0800 X-Received: from c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net [75.68.233.37]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:01:50 -0800 Message-ID: <20071105070150.y23xwceclwo484s4@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 07:01:50 -0800 References: <737b61f30711032004i3bc557b7j7d2167598486ac38@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <737b61f30711032004i3bc557b7j7d2167598486ac38@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13897 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.3 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: mungojelly@ixkey.info From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: mungojelly@ixkey.info Subject: [lojban] Re: o'e vs i'i X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=1s5TZhYcKtjd-q_xjDB6idt-BTJp0qgK9Dx5F81_9s9_QZav_A X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28375 Quoting Chris Capel : > {o'e} vs {i'i}. What's the difference? I would say .o'e to .o'enai is emotional distance, closeness, connection. ".o'enai" is like "feeling distant," being not connected. .i'i to .i'inai is more like sociality, hanging out, togetherness, camaraderie. ".i'inai" is like wanting to be alone, wanting some space. So if you said "do .o'e .i'inai" that would be like "I feel close to you, but right now I need some space", while "do .i'i .o'enai" would be like "we're on the same team doing this together, but I don't actually feel that close to you." I've said a few times lately: "la lojban. .i'i" and what I mean by that is: "Lojban, which we're all sharing together, which is our team, Ra Ra Go Lojban." If I were to say: "la lojban. .o'e" that would seem to me like "Lojban, which I feel a close personal connection to, which is close to me." Also true. :) Just my opinions. :) <3, brett To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.