From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Nov 13 07:11:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 75737 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 15:11:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m53.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Nov 2007 15:11:27 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.10) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 15:11:27 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 28880 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 15:11:27 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Nov 2007 15:11:27 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxQ6-0001aP-3o for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:11:18 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrxNX-0000kE-FS; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:09:00 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:53:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Irx8o-0000k0-Ls for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:53:28 -0800 X-Received: from pi.meson.org ([66.134.26.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Irx8P-0000in-Sc for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:53:19 -0800 X-Received: (qmail 23995 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 09:52:34 -0500 X-Received: from nagas.meson.org (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (1000@192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 09:52:34 -0500 Message-ID: <4739BA31.1070500@kli.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:52:33 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13928 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mark@kli.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.10 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Mark E. Shoulson" From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Reply-To: mark@kli.org Subject: [lojban] Re: respect X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=Gn83SX48FpOhL6tXcIE0bLWU_CHB48T4EZmFttwXCveOBIXNSA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28406 MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > You have limited the topic of discussion to your own viewpoint. I was > talking about the former one. > All cultures should have a name, a handle by which they can be > discussed. Naming something has nothing in common with respecting it. I thought that was how this discussion started: discussing the discomfort some feel with the cultural gismu on the grounds that they seem to "favor" or show greater "respect" to some cultures than to others. Talking about naming was how we got here. ~mark To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.