From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 12 09:11:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 65587 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 17:11:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Nov 2007 17:11:57 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.4) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 17:11:57 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 18027 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 17:11:57 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Nov 2007 17:11:57 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IrcpH-0004rb-Rz for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:11:56 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ircog-0004ou-1w; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:11:25 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:29 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ircns-0004og-Vm for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:29 -0800 X-Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ircnp-0004oJ-VP for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:28 -0800 X-Received: (qmail 30362 invoked by uid 48); 12 Nov 2007 09:10:18 -0800 X-Received: from c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net [75.68.233.37]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:18 -0800 Message-ID: <20071112091018.xbs9yb51cwgk0w8g@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:18 -0800 References: <26730.155.208.254.98.1194877458.squirrel@polimnia.eridia.it> <47387DF2.4060803@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <47387DF2.4060803@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13924 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: mungojelly@ixkey.info From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: mungojelly@ixkey.info Subject: [lojban] Re: OT: all cultures equal? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=_4UC3gcdYl4jsSRiHQjQzrOXw99tg9wPywS15tE4vfc8xI5PcQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28401 Quoting Bob LeChevalier : > Perhaps the error is in the word "equal" as well. To say that all > cultures deserve respect does not necessarily require that all cultures > get equal respect. Rather, it means that the range of respect that is > granted should always be above some minimal value, arising from the sum > of the minimum value of the respect due each individual person in that > culture merely for being a human being. coi lojbab .io .i doi rodo We need not do all cultures the respect of uncritically accepting their ideas (not hardly!) but here the respect we are discussing is the basic respect of being honorably named, and I will proudly stand again behind saying that we as a community should offer that without hesitation to all peoples on this Earth. mi'e bret. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.