From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Nov 18 06:34:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 90982 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2007 14:34:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Nov 2007 14:34:28 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.5) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2007 14:34:28 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29875 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2007 14:34:28 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Nov 2007 14:34:28 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ItlDk-0005Dr-1F for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:34:12 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Itl91-00053P-Sw; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:29:30 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:25:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Itl5V-000531-PH for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:25:40 -0800 X-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Itl5A-0004zt-Gd for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:25:26 -0800 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1084864rvf for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:24:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr907215wfh.1195395891572; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:24:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.193.17 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:24:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30711180624v2e1b986aha6dc938d1a936f44@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:24:51 -0600 In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10711180120h22d76144p2975dff7770c9fd7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3ccac5f10711180120h22d76144p2975dff7770c9fd7@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13948 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.5 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Chris Capel" From: "Chris Capel" Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Poll (not lojbanic, but whorfish) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=yq2xki5ZWdQGBLE5wI729Fp1tgUYjPd_WkhJP75nh_UtC_M8Og X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28425 On Nov 18, 2007 3:20 AM, Cyril Slobin wrote: > If you see a plastic bag with two books inside and a pair of shoes, > how much items do you see? And, if your answer is not 1 or 5, list > these items, please. Are the shoes in the bag? Are we supposed to count the bag? If the shoes are in the bag, I wouldn't count the bag itself. If not, I wouldn't count the books unless they're visible. I'd always count the shoes as two. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.