From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 04 00:39:50 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzTJZ-0005J5-Bn for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:39:44 -0800 Received: from dsl081-066-183.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.183] helo=pinfu.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzTJF-0005Hl-EF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:39:34 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.184]) by pinfu.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iz7yV-0001xZ-3A for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:52:27 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so2526165rvf for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:52:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0OL8whjtMb8st2F323hDGXEk+g7skJLUhDxYPM4upD8=; b=awc4Yt0nVs6Bxwr/rvPoHwaAxwd7AxcrrHysiB/OPa3KEyxygo/3ghyeNVjNeKY6uybAf6UjcuxHlNFchFVgIUZAyvpgXZ/nS2I180w/qmqXEGTk5q+VxKbhUC5K/CvCm/RtqRFJxiVKuc76rYL35u3FrTYKsOIiF6RKoV+LR/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iMF0jgns2Pd6VeSpEqGOE5KSOvDWccWqS+NKUjnrnbTshnimdQMWy/bpRv+ocsu3fpFHhutF8u6MsCN3SBHv3LB9Kk3jBcBSKqVAaexeP6NcZS0Frxb12fvmqyYtzS/h04Ip0M4P6AoWldJbfCmn45kmX19SRkrpaD+eglgoTW8= Received: by 10.141.162.16 with SMTP id p16mr1098950rvo.1196673803421; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:23:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:23:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712030123l24c3e6bfj5d57187ac9b9eca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:23:23 +0800 From: Penguino To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Word for "bless" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6392_24531330.1196673803421" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13972 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_6392_24531330.1196673803421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been wondering about the state of the Lojban equivalent to the word "bless". Jbovlaste gives *ruxyzau*, however this is for blessing an action, not an object. I suppose one can use *tu'a* here... though it might not be clear exactly what the abstraction is. There is also (*ces*)*toldapma*, though it might be ambiguous... it could also mean "x1 releases/un-condemns x2 from damnation x3", paralleling *tolvimcu*, and (in my opinion) an ugly word to use for bless. I guess one could get a word for* *"bless" that parallels the place structure of *dapma* through something like *zanseldimgau*, but it is rather long. ------=_Part_6392_24531330.1196673803421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been wondering about the state of the Lojban equivalent to the word "bless". Jbovlaste gives ruxyzau, however this is for blessing an action, not an object. I suppose one can use tu'a here... though it might not be clear exactly what the abstraction is. There is also ( ces)toldapma, though it might be ambiguous... it could also mean "x1 releases/un-condemns x2 from damnation x3", paralleling tolvimcu, and (in my opinion) an ugly word to use for bless.

I guess one could get a word for "bless" that parallels the place structure of dapma through something like zanseldimgau, but it is rather long.
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