From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 05 11:00:13 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzzTb-0000fU-Ew for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:00:09 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzzTJ-0000dT-9E for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:00:04 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so3612639rvf for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:59:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=g9F0zc4e7544lOOlTE8GRbNvQESAqAHTc/m5jUPICK4=; b=l6cDiWyGHP6g/frKserCwNQtkKVCqyWfitwWKWMLUJOR/kCOVjNZNxRtCiLSjrOlDaQ1VnJz7YhgeDg2x23rCyEyiLAnHUcL+N+qDz55e+6jJFgvlD8mXmMwW5G/8+vz4wpLf3CITYWOxt8dpbL7O77kaG5ML47IJX8Aa3jnXz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fiwZI4XoqXk86Z7CBYUX2rjeHiV0+7BMg4NeMam5VOcnckucjf/pz8geHDkHLV7hAqNVKDF9c/GhG9PzUANpSK5l03gDoiWz93CMszuQB93axNrKYJhekmTc/fynrxejT3E1/P0LIwMgNexd8iCSFFhLlLASgEblx+PQp70DpGA= Received: by 10.140.144.4 with SMTP id r4mr1406195rvd.1196881185038; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.201.3 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:59:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712051059v3b83f3e6ieee1e1aed2a7f6db@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:59:44 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "This number" In-Reply-To: <97f5058c0712042002q563a1ebercc15fe68a57f2210@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <97f5058c0712042002q563a1ebercc15fe68a57f2210@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13982 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 12/5/07, Penguino wrote: > What's the typical method to express "this number of" in Lojban? Example: > > "I need one more pencil": mi nitcu vei [?] su'i pa ve'o pinsi ? > "I want-- I mean, Aslan wants-- some more nuts." (Quote from The Last > Battle): mi djica sisi la .aslan. djica tu'a za'u[?] narge ? > > Or is there another method? "One more pencil" and "some more nuts" here really mean "one additional pencil" and "some additional nuts", it's not so much about how many pencils or nuts are needed or wanted, it's about what things are needed or wanted in addition to the ones already had. In that case, what is required is a brivla meaning something like "x1 is additional/extra/supplementary to x2". Perhaps {bacydrata}: mi nitcu lo bacydrata pinsi la .aslan. djica lo bacydrata narge mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.