From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 10 01:20:34 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:20:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1eoT-0002HT-0L for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:20:34 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1eoI-0002H2-I3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:20:32 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so2291265nfv for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:20:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=3uwl/m4WlbzuPHSjnanEV2rsidcVQjUzG2KCjHvvhRw=; b=ZPTzpkZ/2eKict5vFtInnQY5R6SpnDh9fDSCECBikxGEK4Wk9cgvo+nB+CVxVT2MOiftd9OWqvKUqlKp8rM4xBdMAbxVSIOwJZAwHmPPhEu5N0emMR+NmcsC4PRWYquLI84yRrutaTLtqFEUMqELAQXThhXLVFPFkVU3VvK1mV4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=kKh0dTFx/xnuhOXJyVzJO7ADiiN5c6rSDxGpIqXIFAeWAhaHw1f1UP+vVvDyANvjAXBgkDIjfaXLkkwNgpB5eIft8qOZBAmFPIiBWkGliIoNuxoz0qTuvIvfCwlNZoNAZXHsisdOaEmRBILweh0gkkgTlARVAq4/eSw1meXDsMs= Received: by 10.86.73.17 with SMTP id v17mr5359607fga.1197278420174; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.71.13 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:20:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ccac5f10712100120o65fbb3pa2c67013fce5497e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:20:20 +0300 From: "Cyril Slobin" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: How do I say "NP-complete"? In-Reply-To: <200712092101.48093.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200712092101.48093.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 356abb0a2ce471cc X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13992 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: slobin@ice.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 12/10/07, Pierre Abbat wrote: > "Complete" here does not have its usual meaning, so I don't think {mulno} is > appropriate. It means that any other problem in NP can be converted into an > instance of an NP-complete problem in polynomial time, so they are the > hardest possible NP problems. I opine "complete" means "sufficient" here, so {banzu}. The problem such that its solution is sufficient to solve any other NP-problem. -- Cyril Slobin `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, http://wagner.pp.ru/~slobin/ `it means just what I choose it to mean' To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.