From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 17 13:02:53 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4N6y-0005KY-K0 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:02:52 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4N6u-0005KM-Ic for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:02:52 -0800 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F80CE6A6 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:02:46 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] nth letter of the alphabet Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:02:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712171602.42691.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14020 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list I wrote an article [[i]] on the Lojban Wiktionary in which the first definition says that it's a letter of the alphabet. On the English Wiktionary, letters of the alphabet are given their ordinal number. In Lojban, y'y, slaka bu, and denpa bu come before abu. I have no qualm with counting y'y as a letter, but what about slaka bu and denpa bu? Slaka bu makes no difference to the identity of a word, only its pronunciation, and denpa bu does not occur within words. Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.