From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 18 10:39:35 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4hLq-0005lU-5l for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:39:35 -0800 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.176]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4hLk-0005lE-H0 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:39:33 -0800 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n30so599702elf.20 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:39:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=JyToawq87iOx3PavwkQh7qkIlr8Ojmu0rDQruqjYMKE=; b=YTA3KHI8cdszfGenDiFl5G2rRzgDojSfXIcurosttxHzM538Ok+wn8wxaUsn8SYkn4DcQA79YqgloeP8rXO8F98uAXLpDtuJPUOlmgsDODDU3dzHmtZYZvIvPYHuh9bcKICTl5vtR3uK3OqRftWaZAv1zb3p/UmFJaG4NeXDf04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aGZBHE/bQPlLgwvK/hh8xMR1xBG3+jr/op3TzToz5uy7jRJYj9J7K98Tdp6MwESD4XBBwY6gNqH8JPvhggBwdCbxIIATtAggWSndqxC3obbKKu6foey8bUq6hETHfR+m6AsYnpREDevtNyySeARN68MbQgGSvVhHImD+tm3Bl2g= Received: by 10.142.83.4 with SMTP id g4mr1887722wfb.28.1198003166219; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.193.17 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:39:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30712181039r134bca55v908d10e8be1323be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:39:26 -0600 From: "Chris Capel" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] is a gismu a selbri? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14030 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list LFB says in chapter 2 part 1 "A selbri is not a type of word (like a 'verb' in English); it is something that some types of words can do." Is this correct? Does it even make sense? By this interpretation, a gismu would not *be* a selbri, but only able to act as one. Yet I believe that for any type of word that can act as a selbri, each word of that type can act as a selbri, so there's really no reason not to say that a gismu *is* a selbri. Or have I gone wrong here? I think perhaps the author was just trying to provide some concepts to preempt confusion over Lojban vs. English parts of speech, but thereby ends up being slightly inaccurate. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.