From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 26 09:05:13 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7Zgt-0000cj-Pp for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:13 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7Zgn-0000c9-W8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:11 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1838345rvf.46 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JH5VYBbSCjgpt4VFjEFCQ+xFGu2MDZSBhQoC/p9ftn0=; b=rVM9O8gtjoiAUnqEi8dNVpm7kAezcUJSFGZeaddeOREWssE4TcWkaVAZEnjc4xDv04USNKmSaIFMt6txncn0PTwrSyGkUiUID3Av+0/1HkKzfz7TyUPGNlAhaoaU7lHPhq9M7NnI67u+r4FIZtJXHM1Dy26JSGWUcMOPQ5BVVM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GIV71506ofy0iCmiiNPWHYxiO/vJ5fGvBTUxMAhOGjhbHLWW1IZ0YQZzT/SA3F4kPqftabd0fmy4zPRgDULJr/oEWzRpkNegN/ku1qzcyk2Nt8ABDcyo7wnc0Q1VqtmQCzInWIGfUp7zoTPg8TvWcx23ilzBXg7vbQZqCMloDXc= Received: by 10.141.20.7 with SMTP id x7mr3448547rvi.34.1198688704872; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712260905q4a14416cue9a18981127be513@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:05:04 +0800 From: Penguino To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "Magician" - a case of deliberate polysemy? In-Reply-To: <20071224212447.mbv0pb521ws4so4k@webmail.ixkey.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7205_15681787.1198688704871" References: <97f5058c0712181546m7773b121g52c1ecc3a64348ba@mail.gmail.com> <20071224212447.mbv0pb521ws4so4k@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14062 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_7205_15681787.1198688704871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This could also have some interesting implications for theology as well. I have heard it argued (from a Christian perspective) that the distinction between "natural" and "supernatural" is artificial; that when God performs a miracle (also *makfa* according to the definition), he is simply manipulating the universe in an atypical manner (he did after all, create it), which we can already do to a lesser extent with technology. ------=_Part_7205_15681787.1198688704871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This could also have some interesting implications for theology as well. I have heard it argued (from a Christian perspective) that the distinction between "natural" and "supernatural" is artificial; that when God performs a miracle (also makfa according to the definition), he is simply manipulating the universe in an atypical manner (he did after all, create it), which we can already do to a lesser extent with technology.
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