From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Dec 24 20:49:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 45834 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2007 04:49:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m44.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Dec 2007 04:49:44 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.4) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Dec 2007 04:49:44 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 3741 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2007 04:49:44 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 Dec 2007 04:49:44 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J71jV-0002Vy-L5 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:49:39 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J71hf-0002L3-Cj; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:47:56 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:43:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J71dx-0002Kl-Jr for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:43:55 -0800 X-Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J71dl-0002Jp-Ka for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:43:52 -0800 X-Received: (qmail 15498 invoked by uid 48); 24 Dec 2007 20:43:25 -0800 X-Received: from c-24-63-92-33.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (c-24-63-92-33.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.92.33]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:43:25 -0800 Message-ID: <20071224204325.j4x6fhuh80sc4kcs@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:43:25 -0800 References: <200712142245.27721.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12d58c160712161554y76e95023o8118deb2d6332d31@mail.gmail.com> <200712171518.32278.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <200712171518.32278.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14055 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.4 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: mungojelly@ixkey.info From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: mungojelly@ixkey.info Subject: [lojban] changing speakers, was Re: xebro rindo xajmi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=wpZbS06YgX_ve2hLNeNDlZKUyPkhIreEKAkE6Tii3zkBnUq2hw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28536 Quoting Pierre Abbat : > What is the audiovisual isomorph of changing speakers? I would say that one such indicator is "mi'e" (+ cmene), which might be appropriate before every statement in a formal context, say a town meeting. In casual Lojban it's my preference that changes of speaker should be very flexible. For instance, when ".i" is explained it's often said that one reason it's necessary is that a second speaker could be adding something to the first speaker's sentence-- that sounds like fun! (It could be a sport to have a long wide ranging conversation where ".i" is banned, & everyone adds to a single communal bridi!) I also think that it should be appropriate in some contexts to kibitz (there's some Yiddish!) by adding phrases while someone is speaking: noi, .e, etc. If the main speaker disagrees they can erase what you say with "si." :) I've been thinking for a while that it would make sense for other people to chime in with UI cmavo about things that are mentioned, sort of like saying "yup" or "uh-huh," but a little bit more responsive. mu'o mi'e bret. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.