From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Dec 08 13:24:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 50233 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2007 21:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2007 21:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.7) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2007 21:24:17 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 31933 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2007 21:24:17 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Dec 2007 21:24:15 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J179H-0007Up-C5 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:24:00 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J16xa-0006Na-B3; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:12:02 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:56:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J16ij-0006NH-RO for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:56:26 -0800 X-Received: from squid17.laughingsquid.net ([72.32.93.144]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J16i7-0006M6-AC for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:56:15 -0800 X-Received: (qmail 30281 invoked by uid 48); 8 Dec 2007 12:48:29 -0800 X-Received: from c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net (c-75-68-233-37.hsd1.vt.comcast.net [75.68.233.37]) by webmail.ixkey.info (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:48:29 -0800 Message-ID: <20071208124829.a65uyiiosg0s08wc@webmail.ixkey.info> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:48:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13988 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mungojelly@ixkey.info X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: mungojelly@ixkey.info From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: mungojelly@ixkey.info Subject: [lojban] la cinban. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=52DjP08DdcwSiZWZ4kL_1L5QTiZoqlX200DwZfUr-6GBpFBlYw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28467 Hello, I have discovered/invented a new language which I'm calling "la cinban." which is an excerpt of Lojban. Cinban is the application of UI cmavo to English text. The name of the language comes from this old post by Robin, where he was actually suggesting it in passing as an alternative name for Lojban itself: http://www.lojban.org/eo/lists/lojban-list/msg11256.html .i .a'u On his very next post on the same thread, he uses Cinban as I'm describing it, adding a "{.ie}" to the beginning of an English sentence: http://www.lojban.org/eo/lists/lojban-list/msg11261.html In fact, as I'm sure all long-term Lojbanistanis are well aware, Cinban .i'u has always been very commonly spoken on this email list and in other Lojbanic arenas. What I'm hoping .a'o to do is just to give it some more specific energy ro'e & focus, to really see what can be brought out of it. I believe .iaro'a that Cinban itself is a useful and interesting language, which might be worth learning not just as a stepping stone to Lojban, but also on its own merits. I've created a forum http://groups.google.com/group/cinban where I plan to practice .o'o using Cinban until I'm fully fluent .a'o in it. Anyone's welcome .e'uro'a to join me, of course. .uenaidai mu'o mi'e bret. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.