From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Dec 05 12:56:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30909 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 20:56:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2007 20:56:53 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.10) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2007 20:56:53 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 22543 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2007 20:56:50 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Dec 2007 20:56:50 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J01IT-0005DY-Pp for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:56:47 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J01Fx-0004xD-RV; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:54:27 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:49:27 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J01BE-0004wc-Ce for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:49:23 -0800 X-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J01AY-0004vM-6E for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:49:13 -0800 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so3652223rvf for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:48:26 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.88.11 with SMTP id l11mr1488877rvb.1196887705981; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.201.3 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712051248v12076c69kfa7e63b0a520d359@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:48:25 -0300 In-Reply-To: <200712051427.25936.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <97f5058c0712050133n3119873akcf5b086671411b2@mail.gmail.com> <200712051427.25936.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13984 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.10 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Translation: Criticism requested X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=aoIxsZinVPrbQXiDBUrs2GOhujhHXRhaIQ5tT0Wpc1FdbFfHZA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28464 On 12/5/07, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > For "republic" I say {ka'irje'a}. {nalnoltruje'a} is good too, as it > emphasizes the rule by non-nobles as opposed to rule by the Queen, and > Australia already has a House of Representatives and a Senate. The x1 of jecta seems to be the government of a state, not the state itself. So I prefer {gubytutra} for "res publica". > "should not move" is syntactically ambiguous in English, because "not" > precedes an infinitive but follows a finite verb. It can mean {bilga lo nu na > co'e} or {na bilga lo nu co'e}. But is "should not" ever used in the sense of {na bilga}? mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.