From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 18 11:49:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 92716 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 19:49:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 19:49:04 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 19:49:04 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 21853 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 19:48:58 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Dec 2007 19:48:58 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4iQw-0001Bq-Tc for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:48:56 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4iQC-00017K-Tc; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:48:13 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:47:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4iPF-00017C-5f for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:47:11 -0800 X-Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.191] helo=rn-out-0102.google.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4iPA-00016w-KD for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:47:08 -0800 X-Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i24so998408rng.19 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:47:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.108.14 with SMTP id g14mr1864956wfc.52.1198007221629; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:47:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.193.17 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:47:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30712181147o77636d8em81967db3d097ef8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:47:01 -0600 In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10712181136w76664b5drdd962b2c9f12df97@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30712181039r134bca55v908d10e8be1323be@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712181117k3d8ee116yab87e6e27d6d6361@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10712181136w76664b5drdd962b2c9f12df97@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14034 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Chris Capel" From: "Chris Capel" Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: is a gismu a selbri? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=1gPlaxKbjk98H23AM9ybRE0TZyfP-QQVqIsuAkxJrmfr6P3qyw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28514 On Dec 18, 2007 1:36 PM, Cyril Slobin wrote: > I am rather illiterate in English, so the following question > may be stupid: which word relates to "verb" the same way as "subject" > relates to "noun"? I believe the standard term is "predicate". I think I was taught that in 4th grade or so, so it's not terribly obscure, either. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.