From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 04 01:57:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 30701 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 09:57:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 09:57:25 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 09:57:25 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 5164 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 09:57:25 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Dec 2007 09:57:23 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzUWO-00008a-5B for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:57:10 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzTVB-0005Jc-W0; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:52:02 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzTJZ-0005J5-Bn for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:39:44 -0800 X-Received: from dsl081-066-183.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.183] helo=pinfu.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzTJF-0005Hl-EF for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:39:34 -0800 X-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.184]) by pinfu.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iz7yV-0001xZ-3A for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:52:27 -0800 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so2526165rvf for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:52:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.162.16 with SMTP id p16mr1098950rvo.1196673803421; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:23:23 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:23:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712030123l24c3e6bfj5d57187ac9b9eca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:23:23 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6392_24531330.1196673803421" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13972 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Penguino From: Penguino Reply-To: spheniscine@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Word for "bless" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=B4Z2VtF48AFEataoPBYd2QiTq3Q6qcFRLAkwPFq2MrGpLQiLQg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28452 ------=_Part_6392_24531330.1196673803421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been wondering about the state of the Lojban equivalent to the word "bless". Jbovlaste gives *ruxyzau*, however this is for blessing an action, not an object. I suppose one can use *tu'a* here... though it might not be clear exactly what the abstraction is. There is also (*ces*)*toldapma*, though it might be ambiguous... it could also mean "x1 releases/un-condemns x2 from damnation x3", paralleling *tolvimcu*, and (in my opinion) an ugly word to use for bless. I guess one could get a word for* *"bless" that parallels the place structure of *dapma* through something like *zanseldimgau*, but it is rather long. ------=_Part_6392_24531330.1196673803421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been wondering about the state of the Lojban equivalent to the word "bless". Jbovlaste gives ruxyzau, however this is for blessing an action, not an object. I suppose one can use tu'a here... though it might not be clear exactly what the abstraction is. There is also ( ces)toldapma, though it might be ambiguous... it could also mean "x1 releases/un-condemns x2 from damnation x3", paralleling tolvimcu, and (in my opinion) an ugly word to use for bless.

I guess one could get a word for "bless" that parallels the place structure of dapma through something like zanseldimgau, but it is rather long.
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