From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Dec 26 09:07:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 42761 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2007 17:07:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m45.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Dec 2007 17:07:18 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.9) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2007 17:07:18 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 12864 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2007 17:07:18 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Dec 2007 17:07:18 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7Ziu-0000fM-IW for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:07:17 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7ZiT-0000cq-42; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:06:55 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7Zgt-0000cj-Pp for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:13 -0800 X-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7Zgn-0000c9-W8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:11 -0800 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1838345rvf.46 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.20.7 with SMTP id x7mr3448547rvi.34.1198688704872; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:05:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712260905q4a14416cue9a18981127be513@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:05:04 +0800 In-Reply-To: <20071224212447.mbv0pb521ws4so4k@webmail.ixkey.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7205_15681787.1198688704871" References: <97f5058c0712181546m7773b121g52c1ecc3a64348ba@mail.gmail.com> <20071224212447.mbv0pb521ws4so4k@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14062 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Penguino From: Penguino Reply-To: spheniscine@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: "Magician" - a case of deliberate polysemy? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=ND9S-NbCMOcMid97TmgOfgEYDV2JOycBmPm_dA4XG1jXlMmmrA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28542 ------=_Part_7205_15681787.1198688704871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This could also have some interesting implications for theology as well. I have heard it argued (from a Christian perspective) that the distinction between "natural" and "supernatural" is artificial; that when God performs a miracle (also *makfa* according to the definition), he is simply manipulating the universe in an atypical manner (he did after all, create it), which we can already do to a lesser extent with technology. ------=_Part_7205_15681787.1198688704871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This could also have some interesting implications for theology as well. I have heard it argued (from a Christian perspective) that the distinction between "natural" and "supernatural" is artificial; that when God performs a miracle (also makfa according to the definition), he is simply manipulating the universe in an atypical manner (he did after all, create it), which we can already do to a lesser extent with technology.
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