From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 04 08:03:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33020 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 16:03:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Dec 2007 16:03:56 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.9) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2007 16:03:56 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 1867 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2007 16:03:53 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Dec 2007 16:03:53 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzaF7-0004a1-5C for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:03:44 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Iza5n-0005GN-Un; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:54:35 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:47:09 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzZzI-0005GF-Rq for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:47:09 -0800 X-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzZyy-0005FZ-0l for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:47:08 -0800 X-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so3093978rvf for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:46:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.69.1 with SMTP id w1mr403267rvk.1196783190175; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:46:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.141.201.3 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 07:46:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712040746u2568066dlefa262f9d493ef45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:46:30 -0300 In-Reply-To: <47556C65.9060108@kli.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <97f5058c0712030123l24c3e6bfj5d57187ac9b9eca@mail.gmail.com> <47556C65.9060108@kli.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13976 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.9 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Word for "bless" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=Y6O8JqF1eEyOQ7n0XCt9JWe1sHKbHv8aJEyoPqll277xaOTBbA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28456 On 12/4/07, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > It's been pointed out to me that {dapma} really > should be construed to cover both bless and curse, since both involve > "dooming with words" so to speak. If so, the English definition needs serious rewriting. All the words used (curse/damn/condemn) seem to require a negative fate. The definition of {dimna}, for instance, makes it clear that it can be used both for negative or positive fates. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.