From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 11 15:33:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 93834 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2007 23:33:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m52.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Dec 2007 23:33:38 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 23:33:38 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 22477 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2007 23:33:34 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Dec 2007 23:33:34 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2EbS-0003mx-Bk for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:33:32 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2EZn-0003dV-GV; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:03 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:27:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2EW2-0003dP-EF for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:27:54 -0800 X-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2EVw-0003dE-4U for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:27:54 -0800 X-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so172nfv.46 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:27:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.86.30.9 with SMTP id d9mr7223188fgd.1197415666127; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:27:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:27:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712111527m74f9b6eybee3228bb6461871@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:27:46 -0300 In-Reply-To: <737b61f30712111132i2a2b182fhd859a548b805d155@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071208124829.a65uyiiosg0s08wc@webmail.ixkey.info> <737b61f30712111132i2a2b182fhd859a548b805d155@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 13997 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: la cinban. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=4ykzgeVzIzZJXAQBob_DZCbY8ucQ-YXasJU_maBJzrl1zTPkFg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28476 On Dec 11, 2007 4:32 PM, Chris Capel wrote: > > Ua uhi ahu dahi lo nu this expands to other types of cmavo zehu puho > Lojban starts taking over your speech! > > (Did I use {ze'u pu'o} right there? As in "until eventually"?) {lo nu} seems to be in the wrong place. I suppose you mean something like: ua .u'i .a'u da'i la'e di'u preja lo drata se cmavo ze'u pu'o lo nu la .lojban. co'a jitro lo do selsku But I don't like this use of pu'o and ba'o to show the aspect of the subordinate clause in its tagged sumti ({co'a jitro} in this case) rather than the aspect of the main clause ({preja}) as one would expect from how other tags work. For "until" I prefer to use "co'u": {ze'u preja co'u lo nu ly co'a jitro}. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.