From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Dec 17 13:07:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 91482 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2007 21:07:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Dec 2007 21:07:35 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2007 21:07:35 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 14550 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2007 21:07:35 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Dec 2007 21:07:35 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4NBV-0005YZ-4x for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:07:34 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4NB6-0005V0-8E; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:07:12 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:06:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4NAS-0005Um-4r for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:06:28 -0800 X-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4NAM-0005UH-5c for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:06:27 -0800 X-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so301085fga.0 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:06:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.86.4.2 with SMTP id 2mr6874493fgd.5.1197925579904; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:06:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:06:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712171306v3a058f99r5a7b7e878ec04795@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:06:19 -0300 In-Reply-To: <12d58c160712171242y23a0c64bq3fd2e264dc1d7fcd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200712142245.27721.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12d58c160712161554y76e95023o8118deb2d6332d31@mail.gmail.com> <200712171518.32278.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12d58c160712171242y23a0c64bq3fd2e264dc1d7fcd@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14021 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: xebro rindo xajmi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=xMmzlOARvUIo1P48vElQnm16TwUPk8u8tcMt5B1zBvtTMf5N0A X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28500 On Dec 17, 2007 5:42 PM, komfo,amonan wrote: > On Dec 17, 2007 3:18 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > > What is the audiovisual isomorph of changing speakers? > > Well, I would think at least {.i lu [...] li'u} is pretty much required for > transcription of dialog in a story. It depends how you look at it. In the Alice translation, which has lots of dialogue, I went with lu-li'u all over the place. In the Little Pince one, which also has lots of dialogue, I preferred something lighter, like what Pierre did, leaving it to the different voices to separate the utterances. If one thinks of the story as a single text all in the voice of the author, then lu-li'u is needed. But if one thinks of it as a concatenation of texts in varying voices, it is not necessary, in fact it's even wrong, to use the quotes. For example, if the story was read on radio, with different people doing the voices of each character, or even the same person shiftng their voice for different characters, the lu-li'u quotes woud be out of place. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.