From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Dec 18 12:45:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 19237 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 20:44:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.95) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2007 20:44:59 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 20:44:59 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 20276 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2007 20:44:59 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Dec 2007 20:44:58 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4jJ8-0003PY-Nr for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:44:56 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4jIW-0003L1-Bq; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:44:21 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:33 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4jGq-0003Kv-5P for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:32 -0800 X-Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.248] helo=hs-out-2122.google.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4jGk-0003KN-4A for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:31 -0800 X-Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 23so4521114hsn.2 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.128.6 with SMTP id a6mr921072wfd.138.1198010538685; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.142.193.17 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <737b61f30712181242i5cfd6707n745406a7ed4b2a57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:42:18 -0600 In-Reply-To: <4768265E.20304@perpetuum-immobile.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30712181039r134bca55v908d10e8be1323be@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712181117k3d8ee116yab87e6e27d6d6361@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10712181136w76664b5drdd962b2c9f12df97@mail.gmail.com> <47682208.20803@perpetuum-immobile.de> <476825A7.1080602@kli.org> <4768265E.20304@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14041 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Chris Capel" From: "Chris Capel" Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: SVO order X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=VdqU9uYceMzKepjWs7Rogfz8Pv9ivkq2yVS8C6XS9agzuBA2Ww X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28521 On Dec 18, 2007 1:58 PM, Timo Paulssen wrote: > Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > > For example, in the sentence "Fred is a doctor," > > the subject is "Fred" and the predicate is "is a doctor" ("a doctor" > > being a predicate nominative, and part of the predicate) whereas the > > verb is "is." > > isn't is only an auxilliary verb anyway? or am i confusing stuff with > german? ;) In my experience, "auxiliary verb" refers to "have", "had", "was", etc. in compound tense formations, but never to "is", which is called a "linking verb" or some such nonsense. But then the state of grammar education in America really sucks. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.