From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 03 07:29:41 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAS0r-0005gp-41 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:29:41 -0800 Received: from eastrmmtao101.cox.net ([68.230.240.7]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAS0m-0005gY-Ow for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:29:40 -0800 Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080103152929.RERB129.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:29:29 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id YfUw1Y0013y5FKc0000000; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:28:56 -0500 Message-ID: <477CFF5D.8000808@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:29:33 -0500 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> <925d17560801030633s1650f796j741ad63f1f96b4bf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560801030633s1650f796j741ad63f1f96b4bf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14070 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 1/2/08, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > >> If you coin a lujvo without >>determining its place structure, you miss out on the possibility that >>sel[xxxxxx] might be the best lujvo for an English concept. > > I suspect such lujvo will be very rare, because the tendency seems > to be to interpret them as [selxxx]xxx. In jbovlaste I found only one > each of types selkem[xxxxxx], terkem[xxxxxx], velkem[xxxxxx], and > none with xelkem-. I couldn't find any without -kem- and meant to be > interpreted as sel[xxxxxx], but there might be some and I might have > missed them. Is anyone aware of any such lujvo? I suspect that there aren't many yet because there aren't all that many lujvo with agreed upon places. (I don't actually know what the count is for lujvo in jbovlaste that a) are not themselves based on SE b) have place structures which have seen any usage of non-x1 places. Of course, I am not even sure how many 2 part and 3 part lujvo there are in jbovlaste with defined places structures at all.) lojbab To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.