From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 04 21:41:36 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JB1mq-0007sD-Ah for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:41:36 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JB1mi-0007ra-7f for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:41:35 -0800 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79823CE79A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 00:41:01 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 00:40:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801050040.55762.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14084 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wednesday 02 January 2008 20:22, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > 2) it falsely presumes that Lojban words will map exactly to English > definitions (the "equivalent meaning, as precise as possible"). It also > presumes that Lojban(ists) would necessarily WANT a lujvo for each > English meaning. Sometimes an English word will better map to a Lojban > phrase. Sometimes more than one Lojban word will map to a single > English definition based on contextual features not found in the English > definition. Example: "element", in the chemical sense, has at least three Lojban translations: {cmuxu'i}, {xumcmu}, and {selratni}; depending on whether you're talking about the element's purity, compounds, or atoms, respectively. phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.