From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 17 17:52:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 66729 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2008 01:52:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m50.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Jan 2008 01:52:14 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.10) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2008 01:52:14 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 27452 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2008 01:52:14 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 18 Jan 2008 01:52:13 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFgOu-0003lx-6E for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:52:09 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFgOE-0003i0-By; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:51:30 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:50:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFgMo-0003hM-Mi for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:49:59 -0800 X-Received: from relay3.mail.uk.clara.net ([80.168.70.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFgMj-0003hC-9P for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:49:58 -0800 X-Received: from adsl-solo-80-168-224-43.claranet.co.uk ([80.168.224.43] helo=pcr) by relay3.mail.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1JFgMh-0001mY-7l for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:49:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:48:11 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4f62db81c6jsd@clara.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f62b4afd8jsd@clara.co.uk> References: <4f61d245b9jsd@clara.co.uk> <20080117175100.GV31951@nvg.org> <4f62b4afd8jsd@clara.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: -9 X-Spam-Bar: - X-archive-position: 14115 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jsd@clara.co.uk X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.10 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Jonathan Duddington From: Jonathan Duddington Reply-To: jsd@clara.co.uk Subject: [lojban] Re: Text-to-speech X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=L1jC6tDCJW5lBsucql7H3x3Mlplqj9_YNvpnXJ4xRZOXxGiOwQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28598 On 17 Jan, Jonathan Duddington wrote: > How do you define (and how do I recognise) a "cmavo cluster"? > ".ije" is in the reference cmavo list, but ".iku'i" and presumably > others are not. Here's a new version of eSpeak with improved Lojban. Your suggestions have helped a lot. It sounds much better with clause intonation, even if I don't understand any of what it's saying :-) eSpeak version 1.30.16 (Windows and Linux) at http://espeak.sf.net/test/latest.html I expect to make a new formal release (1.31) on Saturday. There are still questions which i don't understand, but it's now in a state where someone who knows Lojban can edit the dictsource/jbo_rules and dictsource/jbo_list files to give properties to words as appropriate: - pause (of various length) before or after - unstressed words - intonation break before or after. For example, a short pause before some words might help clarity. I've added rules to make single-syllable cmavo unstressed, but the speech may flow better if some multi-syllable cmavo are also unstressed. The aim is to help to make the spoken text more understandable and easy to listen to. If anyone has any questions, I'll be monitoring this list for a couple or weeks, otherwise email me. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.