From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jan 04 21:47:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 29582 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 05:47:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m56.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Jan 2008 05:47:07 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2008 05:47:07 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 7772 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2008 05:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Jan 2008 05:47:06 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JB1rz-00080a-8n for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:47:04 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JB1qN-0007sJ-Rq; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:45:26 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:41:36 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JB1mq-0007sD-Ah for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:41:36 -0800 X-Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JB1mi-0007ra-7f for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:41:35 -0800 X-Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79823CE79A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 00:41:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 00:40:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801050040.55762.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14084 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=OFka-3Z27prUW6b2kdn3y744_Wyp6IQ-zrAzcG3WHSrcO_lpsA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28565 On Wednesday 02 January 2008 20:22, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > 2) it falsely presumes that Lojban words will map exactly to English > definitions (the "equivalent meaning, as precise as possible"). It also > presumes that Lojban(ists) would necessarily WANT a lujvo for each > English meaning. Sometimes an English word will better map to a Lojban > phrase. Sometimes more than one Lojban word will map to a single > English definition based on contextual features not found in the English > definition. Example: "element", in the chemical sense, has at least three Lojban translations: {cmuxu'i}, {xumcmu}, and {selratni}; depending on whether you're talking about the element's purity, compounds, or atoms, respectively. phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.