From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jan 04 06:42:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 49167 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 14:42:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97) by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 14:42:13 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.10) by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 14:42:13 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 29450 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 14:42:09 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2008 14:42:09 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAnkM-00006s-F4 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:42:06 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAnjR-0008U3-0Z; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:41:35 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:40:17 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAnia-0008Tw-Ns for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:40:17 -0800 X-Received: from pi.meson.org ([66.134.26.207]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAniW-0008TD-8H for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:40:16 -0800 X-Received: (qmail 32150 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 09:39:57 -0500 X-Received: from nagas.meson.org (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (1000@192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 09:39:57 -0500 Message-ID: <477E453D.5060600@kli.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:39:57 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> <477C38E2.80400@lojban.org> <925d17560801030633s1650f796j741ad63f1f96b4bf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560801030633s1650f796j741ad63f1f96b4bf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14082 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mark@kli.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.10 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: "Mark E. Shoulson" From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Reply-To: mark@kli.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=2kfsoyArQNCRzZfDyIfeog1Okw55RGNVWhjFJuNO_YoJNsPYJw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28563 Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 1/2/08, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > >> If you coin a lujvo without >> determining its place structure, you miss out on the possibility that >> sel[xxxxxx] might be the best lujvo for an English concept. >> > > I suspect such lujvo will be very rare, because the tendency seems > to be to interpret them as [selxxx]xxx. Then the best Lojban translation might well be {se xxxxxx}, which doesn't need a -kem-. Nobody said the best translation had to be a single word. ~mark To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.