From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 03 14:49:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 98486 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 22:49:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jan 2008 22:49:36 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.7) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2008 22:49:36 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 207 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2008 22:49:30 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2008 22:49:29 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAYsR-0005ns-2b for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:49:27 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAYrr-0005ko-SU; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:48:56 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:46:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAYlG-0005cl-Hk for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:42:03 -0800 X-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAYlB-0005cL-Eg for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:42:02 -0800 X-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so3098674fga.0 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr16079053fgb.75.1199400115401; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [84.110.252.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm13054050fga.2.2008.01.03.14.41.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:41:54 -0800 (PST) Cc: "lojban list" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:04:56 +0200 References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: 1.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: 18 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 14076 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 1.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: 18 X-Spam-Bar: + To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.7 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Yoav Nir From: Yoav Nir Reply-To: yoav.nir@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=ejlZMbA03f1tpSXSkM9Qt3kJU9FY7hUMjrg0WD4kuNZG1lg8LQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28557 While I definitely appreciate the effort, doesn't this duplicate the efforts of jbovlaste? On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:35 AM, Jon Top Hat Jones wrote: > I have been working on creating a full dictionary between English > and Lojban, excepting place names. > I'm using "Webster's New World Dictionary-Thesaurus" 2nd Edition, > (c)2002 to do this. > > Basically, what I am doing is going through the book, and listing > every entry with it's various meanings, then ascribing the following: > 1: a gismu/ tanru with equivalent meaning, as precise as possible > 2: a lujvo if applicable, built from the tanru from (1) > 3: a fu'ivla for those of who that like such things > > When I have finished the "a"s, I will be formatting it into a HTML- > compatible table and posting it onto my geocities account, or the > Lojban wiki, or both(?). > > The help I am requesting is three-fold: > 1: Help in completing the list- 61,000+ entries to transcibe is > painstaking work, I have yet to finish all the entries in "a" and > haven't even begun the actual translation efforts. > 2: Help in pruning the list, i.e., deciding which English language > entries to disregard, such as Aeneas, Atlanta, Aegean, etc. I am > currently excluding all proper nouns and English grammar words, > although I believe maybe the grammar exclusion was a bad idea.... > 3: Help in translation: Once the table is up on the wiki, I would > appreciate help in translating the various definitions into Lojban. > > Attached is an example of the table format. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .topy'at. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.