From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 03 20:36:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 43056 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 04:36:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94) by m48.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2008 04:36:17 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.8) by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2008 04:36:17 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 13430 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2008 04:36:17 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2008 04:36:16 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAeHq-0001BX-QX for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:36:04 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAeGg-000130-Ut; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:34:57 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:30:31 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAeCS-00012u-To for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:30:31 -0800 X-Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAeCM-00012P-GG for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:30:28 -0800 X-Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5658ECE58C for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2008 23:30:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 23:30:06 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> <200801031111.52747.phma@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560801031420q6d934918p195e3d92090cdd9c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560801031420q6d934918p195e3d92090cdd9c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801032330.07479.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14079 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.8 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.optus.nu Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=kx5Vn4XF_AUJRhu9SWV0MwdlSoNHcAgZmxvwm_qYfLQuArOQiw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28560 On Thursday 03 January 2008 17:20, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008 1:11 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > One of the words "je" is a French pronoun. Being the lexical form, it > > should have its declension. How do you say "disjunctive case" in Lojban? > > "Case" might be {tersu'i} or {tersumbroda} for some suitable broda. > Is "disjunctive case" the case of "moi"? {naljinzi tersu'i}? The case > of non-intrinsic arguments? "moi" is disjunctive, but it can also be accusative or dative following a verb. "eux" (ellos) is strictly disjunctive; the dative is "leur" and the accusative is "les", both before and after the verb. {tersu'i} is what I was thinking, and I've used it before. Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.