From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 24 12:42:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 33668 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 20:42:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2008 20:42:42 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.6) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2008 20:42:42 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 20341 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2008 20:42:42 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 24 Jan 2008 20:42:42 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JI8uE-0001Ht-F4 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:42:39 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JI8tk-0001G3-Gy; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:42:12 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:41:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JI8sw-0001Fx-5z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:41:19 -0800 X-Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.16]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JI8sr-0001Fe-Tk for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:41:17 -0800 X-Received: from grid.cec.wustl.edu (grid.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.20.97]) by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m0OKf6nI020167; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:41:06 -0600 (CST) X-Received: by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix, from userid 29287) id 5F2C368040; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:41:01 -0600 (CST) X-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grid.cec.wustl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD736803F; Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:41:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:41:00 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <200801241519.57706.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: References: <200801181250.06773.phma@phma.optus.nu> <200801191813.02415.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a60801221129u26354429y7a36c500abb563b4@mail.gmail.com> <200801241519.57706.phma@phma.optus.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LRH 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14133 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@wustl.edu X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: adam@wustl.edu From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: adam@wustl.edu Subject: [lojban] Re: klamburi X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=E5XinDB0QJOnQmDDXEAc6Xq-C0FbQ_6IE6KnsmZqg1f_vZPdDg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28617 On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 22 January 2008 14:29, Michael Turniansky wrote: >> Yes, why not a lujvo instead, vlaxajmi, which seems natural (and as >> a plus, is already in noralujv)? > > Different place structure. For example: > > .i do'i klamburi zo cacra zo catra > .i do'i vlaxajmi mi lo nu la noltruni'u noroi vimcu naku lo stedu noda > > Both refer to the same passage in Alice. In that case, I'd recommend making a lujvo like {xamterbasti}, with a place structure "x1=b3 is a joke/pun/quip/jape/whatever resulting from using x2=b1 in place of x3=b2 to humorous effect, perpetrated by and for the amusement of x4=xajmi2". If you want you could stick {valsi} in there if you need to, but the more general term could be used not only for wordplay, but for practical jokes (replacing sugar with salt, or whatever). -- Adam Lopresto System Administrator Engineering IT, Washington University To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.