From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Feb 23 10:37:36 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:37:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JSzFg-0005Li-3C for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:37:36 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JSzFf-0005Lb-Hm for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:37:35 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:37:35 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Joining the Ranks of the BPFK: The LRWTF Message-ID: <20080223183735.GL29556@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <47BDD838.2060308@perpetuum-immobile.de> <527c832e0802221325s21201601j1bd24b365107cd7@mail.gmail.com> <47BF4559.4070303@perpetuum-immobile.de> <527c832e0802222040o139bbfc9taf7baef1b99ebb64@mail.gmail.com> <20080223074436.GJ29556@digitalkingdom.org> <3ccac5f10802230214h14ca2f3fj5e86e552c8447e0b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3ccac5f10802230214h14ca2f3fj5e86e552c8447e0b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-archive-position: 14184 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 01:14:31PM +0300, Cyril Slobin wrote: > On 2/23/08, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > So, tell me what you want the forum to be called, and what > > mailing list you want it to mirror, and I'll go do it; it'll > > take me about 20 minutes, at most. > > You noted wikidiscuss in your previous answer. Tell me, how a > proud newbee is supposed to discover that such a thing exists? That was an example of the system functioning, not a "you should go use this". I don't think most newbies want mail for every time the wiki is changed, and the web forum itself is just the place you go when you click the "discuss" tab for a page. > The first thing a new user will search on a site will be any > living community. Well, the link "community" exist in the left > bar. It is buried in a second-level menu among a dozen of > not-so-important things, but it exists. On community page there is > a link to forums page. How many people became lost here? I never denied that the site could use improvement. What you and other relative newcomers are unaware of is that I've asked, many times, for specific advice on how to organize the site, and always got complete silence. So, I stopped asking. If you have specific suggestions as to how the side menus should be arranged, give them to me and I'll see what I can do. > Any additional link to follow halves the auditory. For the record, you mean "audience". > Well, let us think that someone is tenacious enough to reach that > page (third in a chain). There is no link to wikiforums here! Full > stop. That's because wikidiscuss is the only one. :) > My suggestion: (1) make a bidirectional (or at least read-only) gate > from this one list to a wikiforum. Working on that now. > (2) put that wikiforum on the main page instead of livejournal > blog mirror. Remind me if I forget about that part, please. > Then, when someone will came to the site at the first time, and > look at the dates of last messages in threads, he at least will > know that *something happens*. Indeed. > P.S. I am a bit ill now, and English is not my native language. > Sorry if some of my wording is inappropriate. No problem; hope you don't mind my correcting it. I'm trying to be helpful, not insulting. -Robin -- Lojban Reason #17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.