From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Feb 09 08:40:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 85161 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 16:40:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96) by m57.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2008 16:40:30 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net) (69.17.117.10) by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2008 16:40:30 -0000 X-Received: (qmail 15738 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2008 16:40:30 -0000 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Feb 2008 16:40:30 -0000 X-Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNska-0006dU-PR for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:40:28 -0800 X-Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNsjy-0006ZW-2e; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:39:53 -0800 X-Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:38:21 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNsiZ-0006ZK-SQ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:38:20 -0800 X-Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.142.190]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JNsiV-0006Z7-1e for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:38:19 -0800 X-Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j3so173630tid.20 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:38:10 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.110.11.10 with SMTP id 10mr7885561tik.44.1202575090254; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:38:10 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.110.63.15 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:38:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0802090838k38beef7arec3e6220db49a91d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:38:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_23162_2673415.1202575090251" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14161 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 69.17.117.10 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Penguino From: Penguino Reply-To: spheniscine@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Potentiality X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=DXCSGMroGJrOHn-OMUSEyyitewLNWW2bvzWgVwkTYJG08tZLqg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 28645 ------=_Part_23162_2673415.1202575090251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In English, there is a subtle, and grammatically confusing, distinction between the sentences "John is a potential student", which means that John might become a student in the future, and "John is potentially a student", which means that John might or might not be a student now. How is this distinction made in Lojban? [la djan. ka'e binxo lo tadni] seems right for the first sentence; is it right to use [ka'e] for the second: [la djan. ka'e tadni]? ------=_Part_23162_2673415.1202575090251 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In English, there is a subtle, and grammatically confusing, distinction between the sentences "John is a potential student", which means that John might become a student in the future, and "John is potentially a student", which means that John might or might not be a student now.

How is this distinction made in Lojban? [la djan. ka'e binxo lo tadni] seems right for the first sentence; is it right to use [ka'e] for the second: [la djan. ka'e tadni]?
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