From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 07 07:43:15 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JXej3-0004e3-GT for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:43:14 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JXeiw-0004dM-Ge for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:43:12 -0800 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B22CE288 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:42:52 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: le ctucku mupli Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:42:49 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <431730.4709.qm@web62510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <925d17560803070540u4de3bd8ere18f96c3b64c1c94@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560803070540u4de3bd8ere18f96c3b64c1c94@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803071042.49542.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14230 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Friday 07 March 2008 08:40, Jorge Llambías wrote: > The order of the outline seems reasonable, although one could argue > about details. For example, {la'e} and {tu'a} are the only two LAhEs > that are frequently used, all the others are never or hardly ever used. > Do they really need to be introduced at the same stage as {la'e} and > {tu'a}? I think {na'ebo} should be introduced along with {la'e} and {tu'a}, and the rest left for later. I suggest mentioning the parts of speech under cmavo, such as conjunctions, pronouns, tense markers, and terminators. The average English speaker is going to be lost with names like JOI and JA for parts of speech, but he'll have heard of conjunctions. Terminators are a part of speech that I haven't heard of except in Loglanic languages, and should be mentioned as a class, as each of their selma'o has only one cmavo. I find it easier to learn a language from a story, or from hearing people talk, than from a grammar book. Could you write a book that starts with, say, Alice, and teaches from the text, as a companion to this book? Pierre To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.