From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 10 16:32:33 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jk6Fs-0002by-LF for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:33 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.238]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jk6Fo-0002bp-NU for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:32 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c48so255177wra.1 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UVKjATGo9y53gHbprFzoC5qUIgcg0OLkHAq6UqTmOPk=; b=kXALEgHY43aFhYnobpq82kgG+sJBHGLrYtARkjW7xlkzpAzPlfgpmKv9JJEAt5fVktL5S+evg9VXRXVVtT28MIp6EaCfg6O3FzgRzU4JWdlb5ChFa0unzk25w+lm2sVIkFCGPKnreBDqWcR3v8WvfUs/ivGuchyC0KkNxLu/5Cg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GU72GehDHpk8Yz2xAB4NEVNQjxxhJWOrm0SXX6ZQePYzZuzALM1jDphf2v794qSm01XPRvuVjfjRIxmEs1uD/LiuPOvj08Tx8ulsagudW7vbEC3HyxlSS0iS6gLBCM5cXhaar+kPPd6V4/pZf5t/ZhPDaoc6cJpBpRkmm3G63yE= Received: by 10.140.163.3 with SMTP id l3mr1115079rve.253.1207870343891; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.116.8 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:32:23 +1200 From: "LakMeer Kravid" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Original orthography draft now online for... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14342 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lakmeerkravid@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:11 AM, David Cortesi wrote: > I'm sorry, but I just do not get it. what in the world is the sense of > taking a language whose syntax is by designed unlike any other, and > whose vocabulary is already a challenge to learn using familiar > letters for (mostly) familiar sounds, and making it even MORE arcane > by writing those letters in a completely new script? A completely valid point. As you said, it's been fun to work on just as a project, so it doesn't really need any further justification. But even aside from that, the 'familiar' letters are only familiar for those who are raised speaking a languages which is written with a latin alphabet. This kind of 'weighting' defeats Lojban's ideal of being as culturally neutral as possible, and a script which is unrelated to any other is one of the ways to approach that ideal. That said, the aforementioned 'ideal' was really only the inspiration for this little project - the enjoyment of the process itself was the main motivation for me :) On another note, if anyone's still interested at all... :) the third revision of the the script is online here: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Lakmir.%27s+Orthography+v3&bl I'm quite pleased with this one, I feel that it's very close to being finalised. If anyone has any further comments or recommendations, I will take them into consideration, otherwise rev4 will just be a careful aesthetic tweak and then i'll upload it as Truetype for everyone to play with. Thanks for your comments Dave :) Lak To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.