From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Apr 12 22:51:51 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jkv83-00033k-4z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:51 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.243] helo=rv-out-0506.google.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jkv7y-0002ye-Uj for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:50 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b17so324610rvf.46 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Iw7PGFtYUc74rC0uxlJHF65y3jAv6MKh+3UDcdcJZhM=; b=rCG121D+b7rG6oRSpDA/FblmHcC1Rk+35sGr57eXNh0Vy3Ig2Bl2+6pD78olicIc/zH9rpHoBEjXyC1O8jhOjdz2XgkwzPs1d375vWjEcVejLbrYlu6BUyJoLvKayR1n0t7xRLsAoxCh9W8u9SFJ1grUdpxaJYP+6wuBlgZjNSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cZZUh0IebZgGGCiYkFuxBVqHScEd4CXkIijiaNWpFCslO+0zVLo4DPmt8aMUKhdmRY09FJB63CVfC02Yb6hlYs+UgWbJw7JnmCTdxO5VHmEzV47dmp0YrwKENZzt2PU0noVexqWOfz5ES/DqYpFHfeD9SgLgI6dS/SXb32SzydA= Received: by 10.141.79.12 with SMTP id g12mr2591242rvl.87.1208065905911; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.116.8 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:51:45 +1200 From: "LakMeer Kravid" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Original orthography draft now online for... In-Reply-To: <702226df0804111618t78b3b9b5p5ac58b3daf2ebb9f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <702226df0804111618t78b3b9b5p5ac58b3daf2ebb9f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14351 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lakmeerkravid@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Yep, optional loop-breaking is a definite go-ahead for the final revision. If you're not a fan of the break method your other options are breaking and then attempting to resume your interlerfu line, or going back over your word/sentence when its done. I opted away from pairing the vowels because I feel that they're somehow more fundamental to the language in a way, and that they benefit from a stronger visual distinction than a diacritic mark. Notice that in terms of shape, they're sort of paired anyway. I too, am extremely pleased that I (with notable assistance from #lojban, ki'e rodo) was able to come up with a better solution for sy.. The bar and a squiggle were really pretty meh. As for p/b, you're quite entitled to not like it, but short of someone presenting a ground-breaking alternative, it'll stay, i think it serves its function. ki'e le do spuda mu'o To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.