From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 24 02:53:49 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KB5Dh-0005VL-9h for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:53:49 -0700 Received: from ns2.gavlenet.com ([213.141.64.3] helo=pippin.gavlenet.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KB5DZ-0005Ue-T8 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:53:49 -0700 Received: from Daniel (unknown [62.116.231.12]) by pippin.gavlenet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D5B5170390 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:53:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <00dd01c8d5df$82445a00$6514a8c0@Daniel> From: "Daniel Brockman" To: References: <737b61f30806240039m5067fbf3ycc1c962aba036b59@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: sentence initial indicators Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:48:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14547 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: daniel@gointeractive.se Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > The current PEG doesn't match {ni'o ba bo broda}. I wouldn't think > this was a problem, except that it also doesn't match {ni'o i ba bo > broda}. I know la nicte cadzu uses the former somewhere. Is this a > problem? I think you should always be able to attach indicators and > tags to a whole sentence, including using bo, and I can understand > that they aren't allowed on a whole paragraph, but excluding the first > sentence of the paragraph as well (but not the first sentence of the > text, where the text production has a bunch of ad-hoc things to match > initial miscellany) is just silly. Most people seem to agree that {ni'o} should be moved to selma'o I. People like xorxes want to ditch a lot of other selma'o as well, so I guess maybe we're waiting for a grand selma'o rationalization proposal instead of attempting to make official particular changes like this one? -- Daniel Brockman daniel@brockman.se To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.