From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 21 05:58:37 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KW9kK-0006OY-Ra for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:58:37 -0700 Received: from narnia.blumen-schwarz.de ([80.190.195.21]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KW9kB-0006Mc-3a for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:58:36 -0700 Received: from nfa98.n.pppool.de ([89.50.250.152] helo=nicte.localnet) by narnia.blumen-schwarz.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KW9jy-0003de-9N for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:58:18 +0200 From: "ki'a" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: question for speakers of German Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:57:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.0 (Linux/2.6.26-1-amd64; KDE/4.1.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <925d17560808201144s3ab0ea85xb979d13377744e84@mail.gmail.com> <48AC6BE6.6070202@devbraindump.de> <737b61f30808201950k721481d8x9eb92707fd0a70f6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <737b61f30808201950k721481d8x9eb92707fd0a70f6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200808211457.45638.eldrikdo@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam_score: -4.8 X-Spam_score_int: -47 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "narnia.blumen-schwarz.de", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Thursday 21 August 2008 04:50:12 Chris Capel wrote: > In Lojban, how would one pronounce carLOTyncras? Would it be > acceptable to pronounce the 't' as a glottal stop, as in English, or > is it required to pronounce the plosive? > > Chris Capel [...] Content analysis details: (-4.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -4.0 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 1.0 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 12 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 14656 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eldrikdo@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thursday 21 August 2008 04:50:12 Chris Capel wrote: > In Lojban, how would one pronounce carLOTyncras? Would it be > acceptable to pronounce the 't' as a glottal stop, as in English, or > is it required to pronounce the plosive? > > Chris Capel The tounge is on hold at the end of "lot" and releases the 't' sound at beginning of "yn". (car lot-Tyn-ctra-se). Also, the second 'a' is longer than the first one! Since the spelling reform, -straße would be correct (if it wasn't a name). The ß indicates that the preceding 'a' is emphasized. (As in German Maß or Saat) (Not as in German dass or lassen) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.