From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 28 05:51:39 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KYgyQ-0007wP-IU for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:51:39 -0700 Received: from shire.gavlenet.com ([213.141.64.25]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KYgyI-0007vL-2p for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:51:38 -0700 Received: from pippin.gavlenet.com (pippin.gavlenet.com [213.141.64.3]) by shire.gavlenet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CA61A10E19 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:51:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Daniel (unknown [62.116.231.12]) by pippin.gavlenet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EE2B0108846 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <06fb01c9090b$661c9810$0701a8c0@Daniel> From: "Daniel Brockman" To: References: <1219501639.22940.88.camel@weewam> <925d17560808241733j1e0cb2acmc48adcf86cf1512d@mail.gmail.com> <005e01c906d8$b6008600$0701a8c0@Daniel> <925d17560808251104j627939b1j10fc85e7c18a2d9b@mail.gmail.com> <3ccac5f10808251324h3843332fj23b4a2ca6e626c75@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30808251711n6e72df3dx5958f8ed42ddf4f3@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560808260537l25b83a83l35a4218f106f6356@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Dereferencing sumti referring to selbri Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:41:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-MailScanner-ID: A6CA61A10E19.E78C3 X-Gavlenet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gavlenet-MailScanner-From: daniel@gointeractive.se X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14674 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: daniel@gointeractive.se Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list If we're going to add a shortcut for {la'e me zo'oi}, it should probably be called {me'oi} instead of {me'ei}. I think we need this shortcut because the stage-0 fu'ivla convention is already established and many people seem to think that it's useful, especially on IRC where people chat live in Lojban and sometimes need to borrow a word quickly. Since we're getting used to having the stage-0 fu'ivla dash available in live chat, we better be able to prononuce it or else we'll get stuck if we try to take the discussion to voicechat. So {me'oi} would replace the stage-0 fu'ivla dash and audio-visual isomorphism would be restored. Is there any reason not to do this? -- Daniel Brockman daniel@brockman.se To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.