From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Sep 13 10:57:47 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KeZNT-0003pi-Fq for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:57:47 -0700 Received: from mailgate.denbridgemarine.com ([83.104.25.50]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KeZNP-0003pD-A7 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:57:47 -0700 Received: by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 93CA7514D9; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:57:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from 79.76.201.133 by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:57:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3796.79.76.201.133.1221328656.squirrel@mailgate.denbridgemarine.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:57:36 +0100 (BST) Subject: [lojban] Re: How many fluent speakrs of Lojban are there? From: "Colin Wright" To: lojban-list@lojban.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 14732 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > You have all of these words with "sumti" and if people > use words like "fa, fe, fi" you are expected to know > which "x" means what. I don't think the human brain can > work like that, at least, not fluently. You do exactly the same in English. Prepositions introduce the different arguments to verbs: you talk *to* someone, *about* something, *in* a language. You have to learn these sorts of things for every langauge, it's just that you don't think of it that way, it's not made explicit, and you take it for granted. > This language looks like something that should be used > for computers and not humans. Those who have spent longer with the language than you will probably consider this opinion to be rubbish. I do. -- Denbridge Marine Limited may monitor email traffic data and the content of email for the purposes of security and staff training. Denbridge Marine Limited. Registered in England and Wales at DSG, 43 Castle St, Liverpool. L2 9TL. Registered Number 4850477 To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.